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pandaroot meeting Tuesday 16 August, 14:00 [message #12489] Sat, 13 August 2011 23:55 Go to next message
Johan Messchendorp is currently offline  Johan Messchendorp
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Dear all,

Our next panda root meeting will take place on Tuesday, the 16th of August at 14:00 (EVO). Tentative topics:

0) General issues

1) Upcoming collaboration meeting:
- time-based tutorial
- physics+computing session
- plenary computing session

2) Computing facility at GSI: request for interface with experiments.

3) Tracking software:
- STT efficiency loss problem in trunk? How to proceed?
- event mixing: status and production planning for grid

4) A.O.B.


Are there any other wishes for the agenda? Please let me know asap.

Greets,

Johan.

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coordinates... [message #12494 is a reply to message #12489] Mon, 15 August 2011 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Johan Messchendorp is currently offline  Johan Messchendorp
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Title: pandaroot
Description: pandaroot
Community: Panda

Meeting Access Information:
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Re: coordinates... [message #12495 is a reply to message #12494] Tue, 16 August 2011 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mohammad Al-Turany is currently offline  Mohammad Al-Turany
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my slides

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Re: coordinates... [message #12549 is a reply to message #12495] Mon, 22 August 2011 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
StefanoSpataro is currently offline  StefanoSpataro
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Dear Mohammad,
only now I have the time to check carefully your presentation.

If I have understood well, the BG events are taken in sequential order. I have not well understood what happens once you consumes all the BG events. Is the BG file rewinded, or it just stops?

I mean, let us assume we want to run 100 signals events, and an average of 20 bg events for each signal. In this case we would need 2000 bg events, but of course if one uses some TF1 time distribution the number could be also exceeded. What happens in this case? I think the answer is in your slide 14 -> the code limits the number of processed signals. I would like just to be sure.

Maybe a good way in order to have not so huge bg files would be to take bg events randomly, so that the same bg event could be used several times in different signal topologies... or maybe I have not understood well the philosophy of such mixing code Smile

Could you please help me to clarify the concept?


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Re: coordinates... [message #12577 is a reply to message #12549] Thu, 25 August 2011 22:44 Go to previous message
Mohammad Al-Turany is currently offline  Mohammad Al-Turany
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Dear Stefano,
Quote:


I mean, let us assume we want to run 100 signals events, and an average of 20 bg events for each signal. In this case we would need 2000 bg events, but of course if one uses some TF1 time distribution the number could be also exceeded. What happens in this case? I think the answer is in your slide 14 -> the code limits the number of processed signals. I would like just to be sure.


Yes, you get it.

Quote:

Maybe a good way in order to have not so huge bg files would be to take bg events randomly, so that the same bg event could be used several times in different signal topologies


This is an option which we can implement in the near future. In any case the larger your BG sample you will have better quality of statistics and having both options would be better.


regards,

Mohammad

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