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			| Meeting on Friday, November 9 [message #5374] | Fri, 09 November 2007 09:28  |  
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					|  Silvia Masciocchi Messages: 162
 Registered: May 2006
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	| Meeting at 10:00 in the GSI cafeteria (1.floor) 
 Preliminary agenda:
 
 1) Status and plans of xrootd/proof cluster
 - proof datasets (?)
 - XRDPROOFtoolkit and new POSIX interface from TU Dresden
 
 2) GRID jobs:
 - problems with grid1, news
 - LSF timeouts
 - Ana's analysis jobs ---> VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!! (pending since too long!!!!!!!)
 
 3) MC production at GSI
 - LSF jobs using token do not work
 - problems with v4-07-Rev-01
 - installation strategy to be revised
 
 4) speed tests: merging of AliESDs.root files
 
 5) File trasfers:
 - transfer speed
 - place of information about WHICH files are at GSI, and exactly where (plus lists to be used locally).
 
 
 
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			| Re: Meeting on Friday, November 9 - minutes [message #5396 is a reply to message #5374] | Wed, 14 November 2007 11:28  |  
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					|  Kilian Schwarz Messages: 91
 Registered: June 2004
 Location: GSI, Darmstadt
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	| Silvia, Victor, Kilian, Peter M. 
 1. Status & plans xrootd/proof cluster
 
 - Upgrade to new version shifted until Marian is back and confirmed that it is working correctly.
 - Files on Alien managed fileservers should not be changed/moved/deleted with non-Alien methods, otherwise it is  not possible to guarantee the consistency of the file catalogue
 - If fileservers for local use are needed, they should be separated from Alien managed fileservers.
 
 2. Short report from LCG Taskforce meeting the day before see:
 http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=10376
 - Strange filenames are a requirement to have a global unique scheme, but a link to logical filenames could be provided (timescale?), if  Marian stops pushing his GSI only solution into Aliroot
 - Certificate based authorization scheme for xrootd will be provided in the future, but the timeline is unclear (needs work from three groups: xrootd, dCache and Alien). That is a prerequisite to solve the security concerns of GridKa
 
 3. Performance problems on grid1 should be solved: disentangle alien and xrootd.
 
 4. A new public interactive 64 bit machine is needed. Discussion: Why? What is not possible on lxetch64? Only if problems there could not be solved we should go for a dedicated Alice only solution.
 
 5. File transfers to GSI xrd clusters should check the checksum on both ends immediately after the transfer to prevent a lot of files in unknown conditions at GSI.
 
 6. At the proof workshop should be at least two talks from GSI, Kilian from the architect/administrator point of view, Marian from the developer/users point of view.
 
 7. Discussion about the proof tutorial next week.
 
 Peter M.
 
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